BOTH/AND
Where thinking out loud and thinking in ink meet.
What This Includes


A thirty-minute call each month, by phone or non-visual Zoom. Voice-to-voice, focused on what's most alive in your life right now. The patterns that are moving, the decisions that are surfacing, or maybe the thing you can only think through by saying it out loud.

UNLIMITED access to write to me in between. Text or email whenever something comes up, whether that's a dream, a rupture, a moment you can't make sense of,  something that came to you at 2 am, 

Response within the hour, dawn to 9 pm, seven days a week. No need to wait days for what needs interpretation now.

Someone who remembers your story, your patterns, your people, your losses, and all the symbols that keep returning. You never start over, and the next call builds on everything that surfaced in the writing between.

Pattern recognition across time. The connections you can't see when you're inside it. The thread from this week to something that happened three years ago, the reason this person appeared now, the shape of what's actually reorganizing, etc.

Interpretation, not advice. I don't tell you what to do. I tell you what's happening psychologically, symbolically, and in the deeper movement of your life, so you can move with it consciously.

Everything you write, and everything we speak about, stays between us. A private place to say what you haven't been able to say anywhere else.

This is for you if:

  • You already understand a lot, but understanding hasn't been enough to move what's actually moving. 
  • You process in both directions. Some things you can only think through by saying them out loud, others you can only see once you write them down.
  • You're inside something (maybe a grief, a decision, a relationship, a health situation, or a transition) that doesn't reduce to a fix.
  • You dream vividly, feel things before they make sense, and carry meaning that most conversations flatten.
  • You want the anchor of a real conversation and the companionship of someone who can hold what surfaces in the days after.


BOTH/AND


The call anchors. The writing carries you between anchors. The next call builds on what surfaced in the ink. And nothing gets lost. 

BOTH/AND is $333 a month, with a three-month minimum. After the three months, it can continue month-to-month for as long as it's serving you. 

I take only a small number of these at a time. It's a lot of me in voice, writing, memory, and presence across the month, and I want to do it well. 

If you were to build BOTH/AND from my other offerings (a monthly single-session call at $195, plus a month of UNLIMITED at $250), you'd be at $445 a month. BOTH/AND is $333. But the discount isn't the reason to choose it. The reason is the continuity. The call and the writing feed each other, so the work doesn't evaporate the moment the call ends.


If you'd rather write to me first to ask a question, describe what's happening, or feel out whether this is the right fit, you can reach me at jonni@drjonni.com. That's a welcome way to begin, too.

"Shifts happen when you work with Jonni. Big ones! She has this remarkable gift of showing me where I am stuck in any situation, what that means from a higher perspective, and how I can use it as a practical opportunity to reclaim my best self. Jonni will stretch, encourage, teach, and support with all of her loving, open heart, which explains why I've been able to make major life changes within a few months of working with her."

Tasleem

"I've been amazed at the changes I see in myself. The stressful thoughts and conflicts I was having internally have melted away, and I find I'm now able to peacefully ride over the ups and downs of life rather than them stopping me in my tracks. As a healing practitioner, I found Jonni’s expertise has also been extremely helpful as guidance for my practice. I feel like I'm so much more in tune with the flow of myself and my world now."  

Sandy R

“I feel like you gave me such a HUGE key to unlocking that long-standing pattern repeat! I'm EXCITED and INSPIRED and have already written emails with that conscious intention and love. It feels so much lighter.”

Inis LeBlanc

Hi. I'm Jonni. 

I've worked as a transpersonal psychologist for more than thirty-five years with tens of thousands of clients, across nearly every kind of transition a person can walk through. Grief, diagnosis, the end of long marriages, the unravelling of long-held identities, the dreams that happen when a life is trying to reorganize itself.

What I do, at its simplest, is read what's actually happening in a person's life, the pattern under the story, the meaning underneath the moment, and reflect it back in language they can use.

Most of my clients aren't confused in the ordinary sense. They understand a great deal. What they can't do (because no one can, from inside their own life) is see the shape of what's moving in them. That's the work I do. I sit at the intersection of psychology and something older, and I stay there long enough to make out what your life is actually saying.

I'm not looking to grow an audience or fill a course. I work privately, with a small number of people, over long stretches of time. If you've found your way here, it's usually because someone who knows you thought you should.

I live on the Sunshine Coast in British Columbia, Canada, on two and a half acres with a creek, many gardens, three Indian Runner ducks, and a cat named Jack. The work is done in writing, by phone, and on Zoom. I've never needed anything else.

FAQ

Q: What's the difference between BOTH/AND and UNLIMITED?


A: UNLIMITED is written work only. You write when something hits you, and I respond within the hour, in writing. BOTH/AND adds a thirty-minute call each month, voice-to-voice. For many people, some things are only findable in writing, and some things are only findable by saying them out loud. BOTH/AND is for people who need both.


Q: What happens on the monthly call?

A: Whatever needs to happen. Sometimes it's threading together everything that came up in the writing that month. Sometimes it's meeting something too big for the page. Sometimes it's a specific decision, dream, or moment that needs to be spoken. Thirty minutes is enough because we've been in continuous conversation between calls. We don't have to spend the first fifteen minutes catching up, either.
Q: Why a three-month minimum?

A: Because the whole shape of BOTH/AND is continuity. The call and the writing feed each other over time. In a single month, you're still learning how to use the container. The rhythm doesn't fully bloom until the second and third months, when the call starts building on what surfaced in the ink, and the ink starts building on what surfaced in the call. A one-month version would undersell the very thing that makes it work.

Q: What if life is quiet one month? Do I still write?

A: Only if something arrives. BOTH/AND isn't a subscription you have to use. It's a container held open for the moments when you need it. Some months are dense with material. Some are quieter. Both are welcome.


Q: Can I switch from UNLIMITED to BOTH/AND, or the other way?

A: Yes. Some people begin in UNLIMITED and realize they miss the voice. Some people begin with monthly calls and realize the space between calls is where the real thing arrives. If you're moving between containers, we'll figure out the transition together. 

How to begin

Choose BOTH/AND below and complete your enrollment. Once you do, you'll be directed to a welcoming webpage with all my contact info, plus we'll book your first call. 

From that point on, you can write whenever something comes up, and the calls become the monthly rhythm we build the work around. 

If you'd rather write to me first, maybe to ask a question, or feel out whether this is the right fit, you can reach me at jonni@drjonni.com. There's no waiting list or application. 

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